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    Posted: 03 Jan 2016 at 15:05
Fine thanks Sue, Happy New Year to you too, see you in September,  not too longBig%20smile
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Bless them! It may not last but I hope they have a good time while it does. They actually make a nice looking couple but I am so cynical of SCD relationships.

How are you doing Sue? Wishing you a Happy New Year.XXX
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Well according to a few papers today Georgia and Gio are now an offical item, pictures of them holidaying in Disneyworld together.
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Natalie is my favourite female pro - so likeable and very good with her celebs. Hope she gets a good one next year.
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  Quote littlesue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 16:33
Kevin great dancer but comes over cheeky chappie and everyones friend, makes the 'sexy' dance's hard for him to appear passionate.  This could be because his wife on the programme and does'nt want to appear to close to his dance partner.  Once read a question and answer interview between the Kevin and wife and they were asked what other celeb they had a crush on, he said he would'nt dare say anyone else but Karen because she had a very jealous nature which could explain my point.

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I think Natalie always gets the best out of her partners, whatever level/dance/potential they have.


I agree. She is fantastic with all of her partners and was a brilliant choice for Cassidy imo.
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  Quote Jo Bird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 13:33
Agree Daisy.

For me popularity is built during the series...
and a good pro/celeb partnership can contribute.

But I think some people are naturally very likeable.

Harry or Jay's boyish charm is more likely to win
votes than Susanna or Kellie's neat footwork.

Aliona's done well... but so has Kevin.

Hope you enjoy the Tour or any where else you go.

Happy new Year

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  Quote Daisybaby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 10:42
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Aliona's great -I love her choreo - but she's been lucky to have three potantial winners in seven years.
Not sure if any other pro has been so fortunate except Pasha but it's harder for a female celebrity to win.


Six out of thirteen winners have been females - seems to even out over time.

Kevin has had 3 (2) good partners the three years a no win yet!


That's a good point Daisy. It has evened out hasn't it...

However I think there's a difference between good and popular.
Kevin's had good partners; Aliona's had good and popular partners.

It's hard to beat popular however good you are. What do you think?


Hi Jo Bird

Not sure whether you mean popular before the competition or popularity built during the competition. There is a difference as the latter is achieved by drawing the audience in to the partnership and the dances and the pro plays a big part in this.

But that is part of the point I am making. Kevin has had good partners and I really liked Frankie (and I like Kevin) but I've never bought into his partnerships - which I think links strongly to popularity in the competition and making people want to vote.

I was not aware of Jay before the competition and was largely indifferent to Aliona so they didn't start off being popular with me. In fact I was disappointed for him because he got Aliona. But I quickly found their partnership interesting and that for me was reflected in their dances, their dances drew me and moved me. I think Aliona did a good job working with Jay and I'm not sure someone like Janette would have got the same result. The post I was replying to said Aliona did not like teaching her partners, my point was for someone who doesn't like it she has done very well. This dislike of teaching has not impacted on her results.

I started off really liking KK and Kellie was one of my favourites in week 1. But that dwindled for me - partly because most of their dances felt like musical theatre and though performed very well out to the audience they did not draw me in or have any impact on me. So I did not become invested in them or was tempted to vote for them.

Popularity in the competition can be built through a good partnership winning hearts and minds and affecting people through dance - my point is that though he has had 3 good partners Kevin has not managed to do this, Aliona has ( though I didn't care who won in Harry's year).


if popularity before the competition was the main reason for winning Mark Ramprakash would not have won - his fan base would have been lower than Baby Spice going into the competition. PA was the bookies fav before the start because of his 'perceived' popularity.

I really didn't think I would enjoy SCD this year because Peter Andre irritates me so much - but it just goes to show that you never came tell!. My New Years resolution is to see more dancing live which is a direct result of being so drawn in this year

Happy new year






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  Quote deborah31 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 04:49
Even I didn't lke 'Dom' - Aliona's partner, and wasn't keen on Ewan this year (Ola's) but as professional dancers on live TV, the pro dancers should just get on with it. Not a fan of Lulu (and Brendan among one of my fav.s)- It must of been a struggle for him, as they obviously (imo) had no rapport.   I think Natalie always gets the best out of her partners, whatever level/dance/potential they have.
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  Quote Jo Bird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 23:57
Originally posted by Daisybaby

Originally posted by Jo Bird

Aliona's great -I love her choreo - but she's been lucky to have three potantial winners in seven years.
Not sure if any other pro has been so fortunate except Pasha but it's harder for a female celebrity to win.


Six out of thirteen winners have been females - seems to even out over time.

Kevin has had 3 (2) good partners the three years a no win yet!


That's a good point Daisy. It has evened out hasn't it...

However I think there's a difference between good and popular.
Kevin's had good partners; Aliona's had good and popular partners.

It's hard to beat popular however good you are. What do you think?








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  Quote Jo Bird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 23:50
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Don't want Joanne back - don't like the way she treated Scott last year


Could you elaborate? I thought Joanne coped rather well with a duffer.

No disrespect to Aliona... but Harry & Jay would have won with or without her.
The advantage of being young, male and likeable on a show like SCD.



Scott was a duffer but Joanne resorted to making him look like a fool - he has made reference to this.



I don't think it was Joanne's idea to do silly routines.
The producers like a comedy turn and chose Scott for the role.
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  Quote Daisybaby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 22:56
Originally posted by Jo Bird

Aliona's great -I love her choreo - but she's been lucky to have three potantial winners in seven years.
Not sure if any other pro has been so fortunate except Pasha but it's harder for a female celebrity to win.


Six out of thirteen winners have been females - seems to even out over time.

Kevin has had 3 (2) good partners the three years a no win yet!
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  Quote Daisybaby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 22:46
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Don't want Joanne back - don't like the way she treated Scott last year


Could you elaborate? I thought Joanne coped rather well with a duffer.

No disrespect to Aliona... but Harry & Jay would have won with or without her.
The advantage of being young, male and likeable on a show like SCD.



Sone, such as Kevin have got to the final with good partners, but not got them over the finish line. Others have had good partners but didn't get them that far - a mixture of reasons I guess - largely down to relationship, public buy in choreography and teaching. My point was in response to someone saying Aliona doesn't like teaching her partners, when clearly three finals and two wins mean that for someone who doesn't like it, she is good at it.

Scott was a duffer but Joanne resorted to making him look like a fool - he has made reference to this.

All of the pros have had partners the obviously don't like - I recall Lillia ( who I really liked) could not hide her feelings about Dom, Karen(Gary), Brendan (Lulu), Ola (Iwan) James ( the first one he had don't remember her name but he was horrid to her). I don't thinks it's a good thing but just making the point that Aliona isn't the only one.
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  Quote deborah31 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 21:20
Here is Aliona with Matt Cutler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96SksLMEIZE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTY1weFvO74

I don't remember any of these, but must of seen them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEn7Gao4JXI and this with the late Amy Winehouse backing singing to Dionne Bronfield.

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  Quote Jo Bird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 13:30
Aliona's great -I love her choreo - but she's been lucky to have three potantial winners in seven years.
Not sure if any other pro has been so fortunate except Pasha but it's harder for a female celebrity to win.
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  Quote Eviesmum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 2015 at 21:00
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Don't want Joanne back - don't like the way she treated Scott last year


Could you elaborate? I thought Joanne coped rather well with a duffer.

No disrespect to Aliona... but Harry & Jay would have won with or without her.
The advantage of being young, male and likeable on a show like SCD.


True, but she was great with both of them.
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